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Martin Schueder, modified 6 Years ago.
VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling
Padawan Posts: 52 Join Date: 10/8/13 Recent Posts 00
Hello,
Just a quick question: when I am creating my hydrodynamic coupling file from a FLOW .com file, it fails to produce the .hyd file because of the error "Volume is less than VolMin ( =1 m3)"
Is there any way to decrease this value of VolMin or is it rigidly built into the program? I am modelling in 3 dimensions and am hoping to have a spatial discretization of less than 1 m3. My velocities are on the magnitude of 1.4 e^-7 m/s and my time step is about 1 second so the courant criterion would not be compromised to my knowledge.
Thank you!
Martin
Just a quick question: when I am creating my hydrodynamic coupling file from a FLOW .com file, it fails to produce the .hyd file because of the error "Volume is less than VolMin ( =1 m3)"
Is there any way to decrease this value of VolMin or is it rigidly built into the program? I am modelling in 3 dimensions and am hoping to have a spatial discretization of less than 1 m3. My velocities are on the magnitude of 1.4 e^-7 m/s and my time step is about 1 second so the courant criterion would not be compromised to my knowledge.
Thank you!
Martin
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Michel Jeuken, modified 6 Years ago.
RE: VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling (Answer)
Jedi Knight Posts: 154 Join Date: 1/21/13 Recent Posts 00
Hi Martin,
The minimum value is not hard coded in the coupling program, but the GUI always writes the same setting. It is possible to interfere with it. After writing the input from the coupling program, you wil see that there is a settings file created named couplnef.inp. In it you will see a line saying:
1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported
There you can change it before you run the coupling.
However, if you do not change it, you should still have a hyd file, only the volumes are set to a minimum value of 1. Are you sure that you see an error, and not a warning?
Michel
The minimum value is not hard coded in the coupling program, but the GUI always writes the same setting. It is possible to interfere with it. After writing the input from the coupling program, you wil see that there is a settings file created named couplnef.inp. In it you will see a line saying:
1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported
There you can change it before you run the coupling.
However, if you do not change it, you should still have a hyd file, only the volumes are set to a minimum value of 1. Are you sure that you see an error, and not a warning?
Michel
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Martin Schueder, modified 6 Years ago.
RE: VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling
Padawan Posts: 52 Join Date: 10/8/13 Recent Posts 00
Hi Michel,
I think you are correct and that I misinterpreted the message in the coupling report. Just one last thing. You say:
"1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported
There you can change it before you run the coupling."
How should I go about changing it? Should I simply delete the line in the file?
Thank you!
Martin
I think you are correct and that I misinterpreted the message in the coupling report. Just one last thing. You say:
"1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported
There you can change it before you run the coupling."
How should I go about changing it? Should I simply delete the line in the file?
Thank you!
Martin
Qinghua Ye, modified 6 Years ago.
RE: VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling (Answer)
Jedi Council Member Posts: 610 Join Date: 3/2/11 Recent Posts 00
Hi Martin,
What Michel means is: change the line in hyd file manually from:
"1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported" to
"0.01 *** volumes smaller than 0.01 are reported".
But you have to keep in mind every time when you got a new hyd file. Don't forget.
Hope this solves your question.
Qinghua
What Michel means is: change the line in hyd file manually from:
"1.0 *** volumes smaller than 1.0 are reported" to
"0.01 *** volumes smaller than 0.01 are reported".
But you have to keep in mind every time when you got a new hyd file. Don't forget.
Hope this solves your question.
Qinghua
MJ
Michel Jeuken, modified 5 Years ago.
RE: VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling
Jedi Knight Posts: 154 Join Date: 1/21/13 Recent Posts 00
Hi,
A late new comment to add to this discussion that it is always better to use the direct coupling from FLOW to WAQ without the dedicated coupling program coup203 that we intent to stop in the future. This way no minimum value is applied. You can find it in the FLOW GUI on the Output screen as 'Export WAQ input', or 'Online coupling for WAQ' in older versions.
Michel
A late new comment to add to this discussion that it is always better to use the direct coupling from FLOW to WAQ without the dedicated coupling program coup203 that we intent to stop in the future. This way no minimum value is applied. You can find it in the FLOW GUI on the Output screen as 'Export WAQ input', or 'Online coupling for WAQ' in older versions.
Michel
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Daniel Harrison, modified 4 Years ago.
RE: VolMin for Hydrodynamic coupling
Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 1/11/16 Recent Posts 10
Hi Michael,
I am running into this same problem trying to couple a DD FLOW simulation to PART.
Even if I edit the individual .inp files for each sub domain, they appear to be written over when I execute the coupling routine (from the GUI).
Is there any way to get around this???
Daniel
I am running into this same problem trying to couple a DD FLOW simulation to PART.
Even if I edit the individual .inp files for each sub domain, they appear to be written over when I execute the coupling routine (from the GUI).
Is there any way to get around this???
Daniel